We engraved pet medallions and Jackie let me do it because I had nice handwriting. Life in wine alley I was born in 1950 and brought up in Govan in the Moorepark housing estate or the Wine Alley, as it was commonly known. Used to spend all summer there paying in twice, having to queue up for second swim with towel around yourself sometimes freezing and having to wait in line. The barbers shop was called "Knop & Joyce" and was at 26 Langlands Road, it opened in 1929 and Harry Knop lived in the next close at 34 Langlands Road. They were, however, very much a part of the physical landscape that became Renfrewshire. With five suspected drug dealers in the cells and 200,000 worth of heroin seized, it had been a very productive day for the police. They also discovered in the early days that one gang member was driving about in hired cars. What Damer said about community could also be said about officialdom for they too can be victims of circumstance whenever decisions for the better do not influence policies for the worse. A list of almost 3000 ships built at Govan has been collected in the "Clydebuilt Database". I would like to hear from anybody who knew any of us up until 1981 when my mum and dad left Ibrox to move to Craigton. 3 Smith, 1999, p. 40-41 I still have a picture in my mind of your father Guido, a very handsome man. We stayed next door to the Mellon's in 31 Rathlin Street for a short time, I was friendly with your brother Paul. The first was an experimental improvement programme, which had the initiatives: the partial modernisation of the houses, the re-planning of the external environment, and the construction of a Tenants Hall. HP10 9TY. In the early medieval period, the site of the present Govan Old churchyard was established as a Christian centre for the Brittonic Kingdom of Alt Clut (Dumbarton Rock) and its successor realm, the Kingdom of Strathclyde. When we moved to Nitshill in 1060, I realised how much I had loved Govan. Introduction For instance, leaky, crumbling roofs were never repaired during the improvements nor were rotten, draught-causing window frames replaced while the backcourt midden arrangements remained as inadequate as ever. My Gran Haggerty lived in 3 Helen Street Govan (above the CO OP). He wanted to discover how and why such places came into being and to see if remedies could be found. The School that was situated at the end of Cowie Street was the "Wee Lamby" or Lambhill Junior Primary. Another is the horses and carts assembled at Harmony Row. My grandparents on my mother's side were McElhinneys and attended Plantation Church while my dad's side and myself attending our Lady and St Margaret's Chapel. Govan and Fisher, former NBA player and current head coach for the Los Angeles Sparks, got married on Saturday at Cielo Farms in Malibu, California. Redevelopment was never completed and the combined effects of poor building specifications, and carelessness in the design of the surrounding spaces were becoming embarrassingly apparent. Built in the early 1930s by the 1970s the Wine Ally had developed a fearsome reputation, the council \"modernised\" it and tried to reintroduce the original name Moorepark but after 40 years of being the Wine Alley most people forgot about or even knew that the Wine Ally was originally called Moorepark and did not approve of the name Moorepark and continued to call it Wine Alley. I went to Hills Trust primary and can remember having to sit my 11 plus exam and passed by the skin of my teeth (lots of mental arithmetic). I might have served you in the shop in the early 70s as a teenager. Zabudli ste daje na prstup k tu? She had 3 boys Alex, Willie and Robert. Vine Alley Bistro 13 reviews Claimed Wine Bars, Wine Tasting Classes Edit Closed 4:00 PM - 9:00 PM Hours updated 2 months ago See hours See all 31 photos Write a review Add photo Location & Hours 114 Market St Gaithersburg, MD 20878 Get directions Edit business info You Might Also Consider Sponsored iRock Karaoke Lounge 141 Community planning began in the rapidly industrialising 19th century cities of Great Britain and America where reformers and well-wishers wanted to ameliorate the appalling living conditions of the working classes. [9] It had also been parodied by the BBC Scotland television comedy series Rab C. Nesbitt, with Wine Alley and the wider Govan area the stated setting for the show, though episodes were seldom filmed there. Click on the Bus route to see step by step directions with maps, line arrival times and updated time schedules. And increase their/your revenues. Govan (/ v n / GUV-n; Scottish Gaelic: Baile a' Ghobhainn) is a district, parish, and former burgh now part of south-west City of Glasgow, Scotland.It is situated 2.5 miles (4.0 km) west of Glasgow city centre, on the south bank of the River Clyde, opposite the mouth of the River Kelvin and the district of Partick.Historically it was It was incorporated into the City of Glasgow in 1912.[5]. Again, as in the cast of the Gorbals, little was done to remedy the situation until the individual agencies within the local communities combined their power to get something done. Contact Us. 5 This was around 1954ish. Not Now. Poor Man, he said to my Mother, "the way she's trying to kick me I think her hips are fine". It was later in 1974 that she began her Stairhead Seminars in the so-called "Wine Alley" area of Govan which led, in 1976, to the Govan Project. Damer (who lived for six months in the scheme) wanted to find out how and why such places came to exist, and what could be done to help them. The faults were caused mainly by a lack of insulation and waterproofing at the joints in the concrete panels, which made up the structure. We were also in the Choir at Govan Parish church and in the B.B. Today the area is policed from bright new shiny offices opposite Bellahouston Park on Helen Street. [14] in 1901 the Burgh boundaries increased further west to include Linthouse and West Drumoyne. The layout suited their operations as there were only two ways in and out - making it easy to spot the police. We moved to a new house in Mallaig Road which was built on what used to be Millers Farm where I stayed until I got married. Hi, I'm not from Govan though my grandparents, Janet (Nettie) and David Finlayson owned a newsagents in Neptune Street in the 1940s/1950s. I can remember having to use the toilet on the landing using a massive key to open the door. There, two local cops came up with the idea of using several of the houses to keep a 24-hour watch on the gang. I was born in 1952 and lived in Golspie St until I was 10 when we moved to Garthamlock. I had to leave early as I was going to a residential orchestral camp but I was so heartbroken at the shop closing, I didn't want to miss a moment of that last day. The jumps I remember were at the swing park at Harhill across from the steamie and at Greenfield where we jumped the middens and shelter and going along the wall (single brick width). It was fantastic staying there, 3 family's stayed in each cottage. We sold puppies, kittens, mice, fish and I promise you, they were cleaned and cared for with the tenderest of love and care, and caution was exerted when people tried to buy them. I learned then that Govan as I knew it had obviously changed (the three picture houses were gone) but was still a thriving community. From terrace proud to alley base I know thee as my mother's face. He had a kilt on and a curly walking stick. Hullo! Again, as happened in Moorepark in the mid 1970s, selective letting policies resulted in the housing of people who suffered not only from economic deprivation but had many related social problems of drink, drugs, and petty theft. The Old Govan Fair. [3][4], A majority of the new residents were from the Gorbals, instead of the Govan area, which had pressing issues with overcrowding and poor quality tenements. I remember one time, my big brother hiding in the midden under all the ashes, when I went down three stories to empty the fire ashes. One was that there was no real attempt at involving the tenants in these changes, nor was there any attempt at involving the community in the future management of their own locale. Glorious Govan. Below are memories and stories about Govan posted by visitors to the site. 125m Harley's ice cream parlour . I stayed all over Govan, I was born in the Southern General in 1961 and was brought home to Neptune St then I stayed in Govan Rd, Broomloan Rd and Carmichael St. So, at the age of 46 I started three years of studies with projects that involved Govan Initiative and Glasgow University until I was finally accepted as a full-time student at Glasgow. Someone took me to the Orkney Street Police Station. I was born in Neptune Street, Govan in 1947, my father was Paddy Kelly and my mother Annie, my elder brother was Dick and my younger brother Brian. . policy initiatives given due regard. However, the local paper still remained hostile, hypocritical, and unhelpful about the whole idea. During my first year studying sociology I came across Damer again in the form of a book that he had written about poverty and deprivation in the Wine Alley but put it to the back of my mind. Interest. He liked nothing better than tothrow empty drugs packets out of his window and watch a crowd of desperateaddicts scrambling for them. the 550 tenancies available, only 33 (16%) were identifiably from Govan itself. We used to prick our fingers to drop blood into the fish tank where the (goldfish-sized) piranhas were and watch them converge on the blood. He lived on Govan Road. Nestled among the quaint streets Moreover, there will be no demolition or destruction of any part of Govans heritage on the contrary the important Iron Age site of Doomster Hill will be marked with grass, and not encroached upon by the new housing while a special corridor will link it with Govan Old Parish Church, which is one of the earliest Christian sites in Britain. British Aerospace, established by the same act, was privatised in 1981. 1 Damer, 1989, (passim), Life in theWine Alley I loved going to the Steamie with my Mum and her friends. Moorepark is a small area in the Scottish city of Glasgow. Glorious Govan. There I was, short hair, snotty-nosed from crying and eating an ice cream cone. In Great Britain, community planning has evolved and not only has it kept its identity, but it has also retained its application as a primary vehicle through which social change is enacted at a local level, by members of the community acting together to improve the lifestyle of the group as a whole. I would like to know if anyone remembers these times. My Mum was Godmother to your brother and I was at your wedding. We left govan to go to Drumchapel. Scottish Skier February 15, 2020 at 7:51 PM. 100m Freshair Salon . During fortnight surveillance in February 1989, they discovered that the same gang member had hired his biggest car yet. Our first daughter was born in 1962, and then when she was six months old, we went to Toronto, Canada. My father, Alex Grant and brother Davie lived one up at 129 Elderpark Street. and education and learning came into my thoughts. It is now an industrial estate . For instance; my mother was standing on the banks of the Clyde in 1938, when the Queen Mary was launched. Thanks in advance :). My granny Flora McFadyen was one of the oldest and longest residents in the Wine Alley. I grew up in Govan from 1946 to 1957 in Wick St. My family moved from North Uist to Govan to find work as did many others. Lifts were often out of order; maintenance of the blocks was negligible while the area surrounding the tower blocks was allowed to turn into a muddy, rubbish-strewn wasteland. 109m Bells Bar . It closed permanently to regular passenger services on 9 May 1921. [34], Alexander Stephen and Sons also established a shipyard in nearby Linthouse in 1870. For Margaret Gibson - I saw that you lived in Kintra Street until 1960 and wondered if you knew my grandmother Mary McGill/Johnston who lived at 110 Kintra Street in 1956. 124m Freshair Salon . Lived in Georgia where our second daughter was born, and then onto Texas, and now living in California. 25 bus to the Gladstone Gospel Hall at the corner of Golspie St and Logie St. 15 Saturday Home, 2005, p. 20 16Vindicated1, 2005, p. 1-2, Acknowledgements There were two other sporting venues for local residents and workers located in the south of Govan (with no space available in the industrial northern area at the Clyde): White City Stadium and Albion Greyhound Stadium, both now entirely demolished. Pauline Belkadi: Thanks for the name of the shop 'Bobby's'. I believe that the buiding was demolished due to a structural problem that would not be able to be easily remedied. Only neighbours I remember were children Mary and her younger brother James Haggerty who lived in same close which I think was 95 Golspie Street. [12], There is an oddity whereby part of eighteenth-century parish of Govan (which was in Lanarkshire) is counted as being within Renfrewshire. Anyway gabgabgab, lots more if anyone is interested. Govan was then one of 15 police divisions in the former Strathclyde Police and accounted for 20% of all homicides in the force. Very fond memories. The following year, Fairfields and the other major Clydeside yards (Stephens, Connels, Yarrows and John Browns) were merged to form Upper Clyde Shipbuilders (UCS). I went to St. Anthony's Primary School and after passing my quallies I went to St. Gerard's. 6 Markus, 1993, p. 163 Yes Danny, Hamilton Street was renamed to Nethan Street between 1931 and 1932. Our young sister was married in St. Anthony's years later. Bishop Leslie in his Scotia Descriptio of 1578 says it got its name from the excellence of its ale (God-win), whereas Chalmers in his Caledonia says it is derived from Scottish Gaelic, Gamhan (a ditch). Within 10 years, Glasgow Corporations repair and maintenance service to the area had declined noticeably because the Corporation was simply not interested. Our children and grandchildren have been back many times as well. My brother and I would wait for the coal lorry to come round the corner and hang onto the back of it as it drove up the street. Drug and alcohol abuse was a widespread problem and unemployment stood at 30% - three times the national average. My grandmother's name was Mary Murray she had eight children one being my mother Helen who was born in 1927. Strange thing is that we carried passengers on some days, these passengers had a dinner on board while we discharged the cargo with most never knowing what was happening. British Shipbuilders road to privatisation was not as swift, and the group was sold piece by piece throughout the course of the 1980s. When all my pals joined the Lifeboys I went along too for 2 weeks, I think the hall was on Portman or Middlesex Street. I used to visit your Mum and Dad. It was only a community concerted campaign, (which included a long rent strike) waged by the various groups of residents, that the Glasgow District Council agreed to re-house all of the remaining tenants. However, the documents do not ask why so many people with poor health or low educational qualifications happen to be in the same areas in the first place! People lived with the inconsistency in the records. We offer great benefits for wine merchants, hotels and restaurants offering your wines. The Old Govan Fair. Living Dangerously in Govan by James McDonald. I worked there for a time early 60s I left in 1962. In recent years it has seen major improvements with the building of Glasgow Science Centre and the Glasgow Arc, better known as the Squinty Bridge. 2 Markus, 1993, p. 148 Log In. [31], In 1999, GEC's Marconi Marine division purchased the yard when Kvrner announced its departure from the shipbuilding industry. He also allowed naval officers in training to visit the shipyard to familiarise themselves with the new vessels. Nu acum. I went about with Harry Bitters, Nick Shearer and John McLeod in the mad days of the early 70s. In the Wine Alley, I loved the people more than anything. I met him at our place of employment. In early 1989 police discovered a team of young drug dealers were operating in Wine Alley, led by older man Eddie Burnside. He wanted to discover how and why such places came into being and to see if remedies could be found. Every month her and neighbours would make tablet, cakes, scones and stuff. They share a rivalry with St Anthony's F.C. Glorious Govan. 14 Riverside Changes, 2005, p. 1 I went to St.Constantines Primary School. But then officers were based in a more forbidding Victorian building about a mile away in Orkney Street. Curtis Govan, 23, was convicted in July of rape, involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, aggravated indecent assault, terroristic threats, unlawful restraint, simple assault, resisting arrest,. Any profits went into the family home and we knew that we would get in return our Saturday matinee money and a sweety. Darners second criticism was that the Tenants Association in the scheme had no local leadership or community say over who came into the scheme. We may then apply our discretion under the user terms to amend or delete comments. The spin put on the regeneration programmes of the past have put too much emphasis on bricks and mortar rather than helping people deal with their own problems themselves. Police Scotland. I've looked at several sites like this, in search of a memory or a photo and never found a thing - yet it was a Govan institution.